let me say first that i'm still completely clueless, because i just installed macos x. however, doubleclick on hop.sh brings up a dialog box asking me to select a program to open it. which program do i have to use?

i was able to start hop.sh in the terminal window, but the server didn't respond.

when you started hop.sh in terminal-window, what happened? is the path to java in hop.sh correct? is helma complaining about something in it's logfiles?

i run an out of the box 10.1. here is what i see in the terminal: [finch:~/antclick-0.1.1] kris% ./hop.sh The Helma main class is now in helma.main.Server. Please update your start script accordingly. [2001/11/05 16:28] propfile = /Users/kris/antclick-0.1.1/server.properties [2001/11/05 16:28] hopHome = /Users/kris/antclick-0.1.1 [2001/11/05 16:28] dbPropfile = /Users/kris/antclick-0.1.1/db.properties [2001/11/05 16:28] appsPropfile = /Users/kris/antclick-0.1.1/apps.properties [2001/11/05 16:28] Locale = de_DE [2001/11/05 16:28] TimeZone = Central European Time [2001/11/05 16:28] Starting XML-RPC server on port 5056 [2001/11/05 16:28] Building application antville [Mon Nov 05 16:28:42 CET 2001] helma.servlet.AcmeServletClient: init [Mon Nov 05 16:28:42 CET 2001] helma.servlet.AcmeServletClient: init [Mon Nov 05 16:28:42 CET 2001] helma.servlet.AcmeServletClient: init [Mon Nov 05 16:28:42 CET 2001] helma.servlet.AcmeServletClient: init [2001/11/05 16:28] Building application base [2001/11/05 16:28] Binding application antville [2001/11/05 16:28] Binding application base [2001/11/05 16:28] Serving static content from /Users/kris/antclick-0.1.1/static [Mon Nov 05 16:28:42 CET 2001] helma.servlet.AcmeFileServlet: init [Mon Nov 05 16:28:42 CET 2001] helma.servlet.AcmeFileServlet: init

that's it. no prompt or something.

try connecting your browser to localhost:8080

the readme suggested port 7777. i just did a port scan and noticed activity on 8080. alright, cheers.

uh-oh! i have the mainpage with loads of errors. i can't create a new site, though.

That's a bug in the antclick package then...

Did you download version 0.1.1?

before i download i need to get cvs running. it also looks like the system doesn't know what to do with .sh files. i haven't found an equivalent to pc-exchange or resedit to change this.

do you start helma by entering ./hop.sh from the installation directory? only hop.sh won't work most of the time.

if you want to change the opening app for .sh files you surely can do that via the information window (command-i). however, this is only useful to e.g. map a text editor to shell scripts.

i feel like back in the last millennium doing all these command line tricks.

just to summarise it for future reference: i had three problems

1. doubleclick on *.sh doesn't work, but command line does
2. it's port 8080 and not 7777 as in the readme
3. the application in the package needs to be replaced

what exactly is this bug in the embedded hsql database about? can it be fixed from within helma or is it in the hsqldb java code?

the "order by" is ignored in "group by" queries. it should be fixed in hsql, i.e. reported to its developers.

the installation is much trickier than expected. simply replacing the antville directory doesn't do the job. i actually expected i would be able to get antville running without any initial knowledge, but i guess i have to go back and do my homework and read about sql, hop, java, unix etc.

just tell us what's not working. java and unix -- i don't think that you have to go that far. :)

maybe it's just a matter of configuration in one of the .properties files?

it is as easy as download and click and you don't have to go into the technical details. But you have to remember that antville hasn't been released yet. What you're using is a package that Chris put together quickly, and obviously you're the first one to test it on Mac OS X. That's why you're running into all the bumps, obviously.

i decompressed antclick 0.1.1 and started hop.sh in the terminal window. the result is a [HopMacro error: java.lang.RuntimeException: Error counting Node: Datasource is not defined: antville.]

for every macro call. looks like i have to create a database, but h-h-h-how?

what happens when you point your browser to createTables?

you'll have to create the db. That should happen by visiting a URL. It should be described in the README file somewhere.

Error in application 'antville':

Runtime error DbSource antville does not exist detected at line 14 of function 'createTables_action' in string starting with: 'function createTables_action (arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9, arg10) {'...

the first line in the terminal window after the start is The Helma main class is now in helma.main.Server. Please update your start script accordingly. what does this mean?

The Helma main class message is not a problem.

What's going on is probably a line separator issue on MacOS X. I suspect the db.properties file (either in the Helma root directory or in apps/antville) does have Windows line breaks. Try open that file in an editor, re-break the lines and save it.

lib/hsqldb.jar was missing in hop.sh. cheers, tobi.

also, the port for win is 7777 as written in the readme and 8080 for the unix-systems.

Cheers, too!

don't try to cheat on us with your blatant camouflage tricks! i know you are wearing glasses so this can't be you.

superbock? (heheh)

and all the mac cvs clients listed here should certainly work fine under mac os classic even from within os x (i recommend using macCVS pro, btw).

And please take care about the settings, especially that you are using UNIX linefeeds.

i couldn't get macCVS pro to connect neither to your server nor to the demo server included in the package. MacCVSClient-1.6 works fine. so i stick to this till i figure out where the built-in cvs is hidden. way too many new programs and concepts for one day.

is included in the developer's cd only (ie. it won't be installed by default with the "normal" os x installer cd).