robert,
July 20, 2001 at 1:24:22 AM CEST
next steps many thanks to michi, antville got a recently modified-list. now this is done, i'd like to propose a list of whats next (as soon as there are sections available in antville this would go to the section "todo" ;-):
hns,
July 20, 2001 at 8:37:45 AM CEST
enhancing href() for multisite apps Re: Point 5: Yes, I think we need a big enhancement of the HopObject's href() function. I originally thought it would be enough to just stop at the weblog level (i.e generate a URL like /20010720/101/ instead of /project/20010720/101/, but it's really not. This would simply not be enough to link between web sites/weblogs, and it wouldn't work for the recently-modified-weblogs-list on central antville.org. So we really want href() to produce the absolute URL in this case, for instance project.antville.org. How do we specify that? Some app property like hrefpattern=%weblog%.antville.org hrefroot=weblog Hm, this makes me think if we could somehow leverage our skin infrastructure for this.
robert,
July 20, 2001 at 11:23:49 AM CEST
re: changes to href() +1 for app-properties "hrefpattern" and "hrefroot", maybe with using square brackets instead of %? what do you mean with "leverage our skin infrastructure"?
hns,
July 20, 2001 at 12:41:58 PM CEST
re: changes to href() By leveraging the skin infrastructure I mean that the href() function could internally use the skin classes for post-processing the href path. I've worked it out, it could look like that: You'd have a skin in the root prototype: www.antville.org<% param.path %> and in the weblog prototype: http://<% this.alias %>.antville.org/<% param.path %> In the app properties, you have a setting something like hrefPostProcessSkin=hrefskin If this is set, href(), after generating the URL path as usual, runs down the request path until it finds an object that has a skin called "hrefskin". If it finds one, it renders the skin (with the object href as parameter) and returns the result. With this, we would be sure that objects would return the proper href regardless if they're within or without a weblog, plus we could even overwrite the URL of one weblog to be, for instance, www.grottenolm.at instead of grottenolm.antville.org ;-)
robert,
July 20, 2001 at 3:41:10 PM CEST
great idea would give us a lot of flexibility without loosing backwards compatibility, although the term "hrefPostProcessSkin" is a bit clumsy :-) what about just "hrefSkin"? or "hrefLayout"? ... comment
tobi,
July 20, 2001 at 1:10:09 PM CEST
hrefs href() to return an absolute url would also be necessary to render usable exchange formats (e.g. rss) as well as if we ever want to include stories from one weblog in another. +1 for the different user rights i just want to emphatically ask for simplicity. personally, i really would like to see some real world examples for those access restricion features.
robert,
July 20, 2001 at 3:54:16 PM CEST
re: user rights i'll give you an example: if this would already be possible in antville, i would have defined the "next steps"-story above as to be editable by registered users, so that anyone who's missing a feature could simply add it to the list and not having to post a comment somewhere in a thread. then, when the "brainstorming phase" is finished, i'd clean up the mess and close editing access to the story again. wouldn't that be helpful (and i think it's easy to understand)? the only thing i'm insisting on is that it's up to the author to choose. the reason why i added it to the list is that i'd love to finish the basic db-layout of antville.
tobi,
July 20, 2001 at 4:30:46 PM CEST
wikilike, right? that sounds reasonable. however, my concern is not about the feature itself, merely about the implementation. but i am sure you will find a smart way to include this cool feature in antville. :-> ... comment
Chronistin,
July 20, 2001 at 1:15:17 PM CEST
multiple sections desired... ...you're probably not going to like this from the programmer's viewpoint, but it would be great if a story could be added to more than one section. I always saw the restriction to one section as a major drawback. Not sure how to do this though.
tobi,
July 20, 2001 at 1:28:52 PM CEST
story shortcut could this be solved with putting the story shortcut into a new story in the desired second (third, fourth...) section? ... comment
Chronistin,
July 20, 2001 at 1:35:12 PM CEST
do you mean as a link? 't would seem a little clumsy to me... ... comment
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