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kris,
February 11, 2002 at 11:23:18 PM CET
the fat calendar and some other tiny things it took me hours to figure out why the calendar on alo is so huge. contrary to the previous version the macro <% param.day %> now returns the number surrounded by two spaces. can you please change it back? adding the spaces in the default calendar skins should do the job as well. i also realised that the formerly mentioned redirection behaviour is actually more confusing than expected when it comes to collaborative sites with non-antville-savvy members. in particular on alo or on metafilter-inspired sites, which are essentially forum sites where members can only post to the frontpage and discuss frontpage posts, it introduces another unnecessary concept to the user. the normal member does not need to see the story pool, because for him the site consists only of posts and replies. finally, i think the tagline in the default template would be cool.
hns,
February 12, 2002 at 9:22:33 AM CET
The reason for hardcoding the around the calendar day numbers is that we need them within the link, and the link is generated by code. The whole thing was my idea because I found the one-digit calendar days impossible to click, especially with the notoriuos small fonts of the old Antville. I didn't think it blows the calendar up too much, but if more people think so, we can find another (more customizable) solution. Another idea would be to add the only to one digit calendar days. Is your problem with redirects with redirecting to the story URL or to the story pool? I'm against redirecting to the story pool, but I'm in favor of directing to the final location of the story.
tobi,
February 12, 2002 at 10:12:00 AM CET
no please i would like to see the in calendar digits be removed as well. it's totally messing up the layout. thank you.
kris,
February 12, 2002 at 10:34:44 AM CET
if i get you right the final location if a story set to "online in weblog" is the front page, innit? i also forgot to mention another small thing regarding the default templates. naturally, the weblog name should link to home. i've always tried to click on it.
hns,
February 12, 2002 at 11:21:22 AM CET
Tobi: let's try padding one digit numbers, ok? I don't want to have to target that fucking "1" alone with the touchpad. Kris: I actually prefer being redirected to the URL you'd use to link to the story, e.g. /20020211/16105/. Weblog name linking to home page: yes, +1. The tiny right side nav is really not that easy to hit, and having one big link back home is a good thing.
tobi,
February 12, 2002 at 12:05:33 PM CET
html 4? what about using the modern capabilities of html 4 to solve the problem? afaik the onclick handler should be implemented in most of the up-to-date browsers and it can be used even in table data tags:
hns,
February 12, 2002 at 12:57:02 PM CET
Nice but I don't get the link cursor/hover color unless I'm over the 1. And since I won't even try clicking unless I think it's a link, I don't think this is a good solution. (I'm seeing this with an old version of Mozilla on Hopdev, because my laptop just died)
tobi,
February 12, 2002 at 1:33:58 PM CET
hover ok cursor ko you can get the hover for the whole area as well. the mousepointer won't appear as a pointing finger, though. although even this should be possible at least with one browser, i think it would be over the top. actually the whole thing was intended to be a helper for those who have difficulties in targeting the digit while not cluttering the calender with indomitable spaces. the following code worked in a test.html with ie55 and moz097 but did not work when i posted it here. <table style="border: 1px; border-style: solid;"> <tr> <td align="center" width="50" height="50" onclick="alert('duh!');" onmouseover="this.bgColor='#ff3300';" onmouseout="this.bgColor='white';"><a href="javascript: //;">1</a></td> </tr> </table>
tobi,
February 12, 2002 at 1:52:19 PM CET
it's even simpler. the problem with the is that they cannot be controlled from within a customizable skin. so my suggestion is we use a special style sheet class for a calendar digit link, e.g. calLink. this can be defined in the stylesheet skin, e.g. by setting left and right margins or paddings and everybody should be happy (you get hover and cursor for the larger area!)... i would demonstrate it here but out of any reason it does not work inside an antville story. anyway, here's a code snippet that does the job: <style type="text/css"> <!-- a.calLink {padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 10px;} //--> </style> <table style="border: 1px; border-style: solid;"> <tr> <td align="center" width="50" height="50"><a href="#" class="calLink">1</a></td> </tr> </table> ... comment
robert,
February 12, 2002 at 10:35:40 AM CET
redirects you should only get redirected to storypool if the story you were just saving is offline. imho that makes sense, because otherwise you won't see the story, so i don't think that should be changed. in any other case (i.e. if you replace the online-dropdown with a hidden input that sets every story online) you should never get redirected into storypool (otherwise it's a bug). redirecting back to weblog-frontpage after saving a story could be confusing too - imagine that you're editing an older story that is not on the frontpage anymore or that's online just in a topic. that would mean you're getting redirected to some place where your story actually can't be found. so i think we'll stick with redirecting as it is now. and thanks for reminding me about the tagline, i'll see where i can put it in the default template. ... comment
kris,
February 13, 2002 at 10:29:42 AM CET
another small idea: i would love to see an option to display the latest comments only (and no stories) in the recent mods sidebar. this would help to shift the focus away from the stories and towards the comments. ... comment
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