A lot of things have changed since the latest Antclick release. I'm interested in an all-inclusive package made from the latest sources and I would volunteer to prepare it. However, I ran into difficulties because I had to build the current Helma snapshot on my computer. The downloadable snapshot crashed on Mac OS X and our Linux Box with Java 1.3.

How can this problem be solved? I suppose you use Java 1.4. Does this mean that a new Antclick should consist of two helma.jar files?

BTW, how far away are you from the release of Antville 1.0? According to Userland's reports there is a big demand in Frontier and Manila. Antville can easily compete with them if it wouldn't appear as work in progress. I truly believe that releases with regular version numbers would introduce more clarity.

Hi kris, Antclick should build ok. The thing you saw that a recent helma snapshot didn't work with antclick 1.0pre1 is related to new dependencies which were introduced since then.

The work-in-progress thing has haunted us a long time, but it's the only way to carry on a project like Helma that is so brutally underpowered in the human resources department for what it tries to do.

Actually, I'll try updating and building Antclick now. Stay tuned.

hi kris. what exactly do you mean by "the downloadable snapshot crashed" on your machines? what did happen? any error messages?

i am using a pretty new snapshot compiled under osx on my computer and it's running as usual. however, i am currently not able to compile a working snapshot under windows (will post a bug report).

kris, if you want to help with Antville/-click, something to do is to write/update the README file. Currently, it is all about Helma, but we need at least a section that is about Antville, i.e. what it is, about the built in database and about how to set it up with MySQL etc. The file is here let me know when you need help with CVS.

ad release: since there are not many open bugs (correct me if i missed some and please file a bug-report here) i'd say we're pretty close to a 1.0FC. but - as hns wrote - this project (and helma itself) is pretty underpowered and after all we're all having our bread'n'butter-jobs which tend to keep us away from working on antville/helma :-/

nevertheless i'd like to claim a feature-stop 'til we have finished 1.0, otherwise this work-in-progress will go on. hns, do you need help with need_for_speed?