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sexy redirect pages

it's probably not an antville but a helma problem. is there a chance that you create better 302 pages? the grey

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looks like an error message. i suppose a nicer design and a positive message like "your changes have been received. please click here to see the updated page" (or better) would cause less confusion.

remark: this page appears only with old netscape because of a bug. some explanation in german can be found here. check metababy with netscape 4.x for an example.

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hns, April 15, 2002 at 1:35:37 PM CEST

AFAIK

People see this when redirecting from a URL to the same URL, which is a design error anyway (design in the sense of application design).

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kris, April 15, 2002 at 1:54:45 PM CEST

yep

I only have it on my modified sites because i have the comment form on story.main, which is a sensible in terms of interaction design.

but why is it an application design error? is the redirect by ie or mozilla a bug? what would be a good solution? action urls in the form?

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hns, April 15, 2002 at 1:52:50 PM CEST

Anyway

-1 for fixing aesthetical problems with Netscape 4.

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kris, April 15, 2002 at 1:57:31 PM CEST

it's not about aesthetic

i actually wouldn't waste to much time with netscape 4.x users since mozilla is heading towards 1.0.

but the current 302 page looks like a server error. how hard is it to give the text a positive vibe?

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hns, April 15, 2002 at 9:53:20 PM CEST

Helma sends redirects

without body, so it's not that simple. It would require changing the functionality of Helma's res.redirect() function. Currently res.redirect() resets the response body.

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kris, April 15, 2002 at 10:05:05 PM CEST

who creates the 302 pages? apache?

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hns, April 15, 2002 at 10:11:32 PM CEST

calling res.redirect() in Helma throws an exception which causes the script execution to be interrupted. The response is reset and an empty 302 page is returned. I don't know if Apache generates any body for these redirect responses or if the text comes out of Netscape 4. I guess it would be possible to send a body along with a redirect() response. If you really want to know, check out the HTTP specs.

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kris, April 15, 2002 at 11:46:27 PM CEST

you can (according to the rfc)

but i don't know if it is worth the fuss. i thought it was as easy as exchanging two sentences somewhere.

however, i'm still interested in learning why a redirect to the same page is bad application design.

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