robert,
June 26, 2002 at 8:21:02 PM CEST
Update to new Database-Schema I've finished the new database-schema and updated Antville in CVS. Basically the following has changed:
IMPORTANT: Due to the new database-schema i do not recommend you to update antville now if you are seriously using Antville. If you already have some weblogs in your database they will throw some errors because the macro-handlers have changed. And most likely the skins that are stored in the database will do so too. We will soon come up with some scripts that will do the update of your data. For testing this version of Antville you should use a newly created database. I hope this update works fine, but if you encounter bugs please report them here in the project log.
hns,
June 27, 2002 at 1:13:26 PM CEST
cool we're getting close.
tobi,
June 28, 2002 at 4:15:05 PM CEST
yes, cool and congrats, robert. so, how and when will we update our current antville installations...? (or will there be another update before?)
robert,
June 28, 2002 at 5:40:12 PM CEST
thanks, tobi nice that you like it. reg. update: we need the update-scripts before (depending whether we switch to file-based skins or stick witch db-stored ones, see my comment below). unless we haven't done that nobody who wants to use existing contents/skins in an antville-db can update without getting a bunch of errors.
tobi,
June 28, 2002 at 5:57:45 PM CEST
you mean some javascript functions that will be run from within the scheduler to change e.g. weblog macros to site macros and the like? that's right. could we do that next week? ... comment
hns,
June 28, 2002 at 4:41:41 PM CEST
I just installed it locally And the new system settings via browser interface are very very cool! One thing I noticed though is that almost nothing of the user interface is actually localized - only the user feedback messages. So we have still a long long way to go until we reach full internationalization, and the most important thing to localize are actually the skins. If that's ok with you I'll merge the XML-content very soon now.
robert,
June 28, 2002 at 5:34:25 PM CEST
yes of course it's ok if you merge the xml_content-branch in the main branch. just one minor question: what about using a ":" as separator in input-names instead of "_"? localizing skins is the biggest part of it, the application messages were just the first step. i could think of the following:
what ya think about?
tobi,
June 28, 2002 at 5:55:12 PM CEST
but would the creation of a default skinset for each language as described in 3. not lead to a maintenance work almost impossible to handle for us? (if i see it right, we need to update each language skin if there is a change in html code or structure!?) how about putting all of the messages in the message files you just created for the user messages?
robert,
June 28, 2002 at 6:21:46 PM CEST
yes that would mean a whole lot of maintenance work. on the other hand: if we move all localized parts of the default skin-set into the message file
but maybe there's another possibility that i've missed (thinking about application structure is hard when you're carrying furniture from a to b ;-)
hns,
July 1, 2002 at 2:16:25 PM CEST
I'm in favor of using just one skinset and including any messages and texts via a macro. Otherwise we'll just multiply the effort of modifying any skin by the number of translations we have, and if translations are maintained off-site it'll even increase the problems. People wanting to modify messages in skins will get used to the fact that they're replacing a macro instead of the text itself. ... comment
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