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having snips or items

as i mentioned in a post in my weblog, some things just don't fit into the structure provided by antville. take for example people i would like to integrate into my weblog. they are neither "topical" nor "stories" (maybe there is a story attached to them and/or they fit into a specific topic, but i consider them different to those two).

the way vanilla handles those occurences (defining them as instances in your "space") seems quite appropiate to me. they are on the same hierarchichal level as posts on your startpage are (space/snip and space/start).

please take this as a suggestion, i am just writing a personal wishlist.

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olex, July 3, 2002 at 11:47:13 AM CEST

alternative suggestion

we could get rid of /topics/ in the url and define a default story for each topic, which is displayed when one doesnt access a specific story.

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hns, July 3, 2002 at 12:09:48 PM CEST

I've been thinking along these lines, too

Basically, the "topics" implies something about the structure of the site that is not always right. That means sometimes, what is labeled as "topics" is actually "people", "locations", "dates" etc. The reason we came up with the /topics collection is that we wanted to avoid name clashes with antville root actions. What is your experience with this? Have we been over-paranoid here?

BTW, don't be too shy or humble. This is not a place to deposit "personal wishlists", this is a place to actively contribute to antville, and saying what bugs you is an important part of that (although not necessarilly the end of it: anybody's code that the Antville development community (which includes you, if you want) agrees to be worthy will be gladly adopted end embraced in the code base).

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olex, July 3, 2002 at 12:27:34 PM CEST

over paranoid?

the only thing one needs to take care of if is not to be able to destroy a weblog by creating a 'bad' topic. Wouldn't an exclude list help, to prevent topic names that are used for hac-files? As for topics, I think there is lots of customization work necessary there anyway - e.g. one might want to display the recent stories (only title and date) sorted by topics on the sidebar, or have an introduction text for each topic before the complete list of all stories in this topic (similar to the hostarea on the fm4-website). But I know this is something that moves antville away a bit from a blog tool - but personally I find this (generally: being able to style all the pages as topics, referrers, mostread etc., e.g. getting rid of being forced to display the content with 400px width in order not to brake the layout) more relevant than the color picker ;)

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hns, July 3, 2002 at 1:11:19 PM CEST

But I know this is something that moves antville away a bit from a blog tool

You have a too narrow idea of "blog". Maybe this is pollution from Blogger.com, where blogging stands for "not able to do very much". We don't have that doctrine here.

but personally I find this (generally: being able to style all the pages as topics, referrers, mostread etc., e.g. getting rid of being forced to display the content with 400px width in order not to brake the layout) more relevant than the color picker

Any code is welcome and will be examined benevolently.

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olex, July 3, 2002 at 2:03:28 PM CEST

no, in my eyes antville should be far more than blogger provides - I just wasn't sure about the general idea of antville (do we want to add cms-features or do we want to make it as simple as possible?). As for code, if I happen to have some spare time in the next weeks Ill take care of that. But no promise there, unfortunately.

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hns, July 3, 2002 at 2:08:58 PM CEST

do we want to add cms-features or do we want to make it as simple as possible?

The nice thing is that we may be to have both - keeping the interface as simple as it is (or maybe improving it here and there) and adding flexibility via macro/skin customizing.

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smi, July 3, 2002 at 7:15:40 PM CEST

this is where i agree when it comes to the general issue of "is antville a blog tool or a cms. i like the simplicity (especially when it comes to the interface) of antville but macro customizing seems very nice.

having different macros for almost every need, makes the tool customizable yet easy to handle.

this is also where i see the need for "skins for choice", discussed elsewhere.

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